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VERY IMPORTANT!! Meetup #16 new member>Sheldon>Pres. of YAL @ Idaho State seeking Utah YAL people...& Utah's lawsuit against Obama's lack of citizenship is by #16 member!!

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Posted Dec 5, 2008 2:57 PM
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1. Sheldon Kreger is Pres. of the Idaho State Univ. Young Americans for Liberty (YAL). He says Univ of Utah/BYU have not got a YAL organized and wants to help Utah get them started and coordinate between Utah and Idaho YAL groups. Dave used to be President of the Univ of Utah Students for Ron Paul, and organized a rally downtown for all of us on Oct. 13, 2007 (still on our calendar of past events). And David Garber & Ken were with the BYU Students for Ron Paul. We passed these names on to Sheldon. Click on his name and send him an email if you have any new details to add for helping him contact people interested in organizing YAL groups in Utah.

2. Judson Witham -- over 30 lawsuits against Obama nationwide regarding his lack of citizenship to be running for President -- the Internet listed that Utah had a lawsuit, also, and after more digging, we found that the person filing the lawsuit against Obama in Utah was our very own member Jud Witham!! How COOL is that!!!! Jud, do you need any help and/or support on this lawsuit? Thank YOU for taking a stand against those attempting to steal the US Constitution!!

(Anybody who wants to help Jud with this lawsuit, feel free to contact him. Likewise, anybody who is able to help Mike Ridgeway finish paying off his lawyer for a very successful lawsuit against the Utah GOP leaders who did their malicious scam on him---the judge declared Mike innocent last July---please feel free to contact him, also----Ron Paul has asked all of us to clean house with the local party first, and Mike, et.al, has been doing that for 10 years on their own--we encourage all meetup members to join with Mike Ridgeway<<asst.organizer on the left>>and the others who are ashamed and disgusted at the party's corruptness in our state that must be replaced with "good, honest, and wise" leaders before we can ever get liberty-minded candidates with integrity elected here in Utah!)

Back to Jud>>>HAVING UTAH INCLUDED IN THE OBAMA LAWSUITS AGAINST HIS FRAUDULENT CLAIM OF BEING A LEGAL CITIZEN IS AWESOME!!

Watch reports on this from Devvy Kidd at WND (World Net Daily). She's contacted the FBI to do a check on campaign funds fraud by Obama, she's talking and reporting about all 30 lawsuits (which include 2 more at the US Supreme Court level by a Democrat named Berg and another lawsuit by the presidential candidate Alan Keyes!!--the rest all seem to be lawsuits that are against their state's Secretary of State, demanding answers for Obama's proof of citizenship), and she's contacting the Electoral College about not voting until this is settled.

Allegedly, the Hawaii governor swore under oath 2 months ago that Hawaii does NOT have any birth certificate, and that the governor has allegedly sworn under oath that Obama was born in Kenya. This is a direct attack on the US Constitution, nothing to do with race.

It is to take down the last of the US Constitution, which is to take down the Electoral College (having the US public manipulated into demanding the "people's vote" is more important than the Electoral College vote, and to throw away the US Constitution or have it "re-written"---not realizing the "people's vote" is a rigged election), and to also take down the "natural born citizen" requirement.

Obama has hired THREE LAW FIRMS, not 3 lawyers, but 3 law firms, to handle this first lawsuit by Leo-Somebody at the US Supreme Court. There's been monkey-business with clerks stalling all of the 30 lawsuits, with the excuse that it was "not filed correctly." Leo's lawsuit was stalled by the clerk having an anthrax search on the papers/envelope he'd had filed with them.

They're stalling big time. Stalling until after the Dec. 15 Electoral College vote. Stalling until after he gets into office on January 20th.

And mainstream media had a complete blackout on this story until today (Friday, 12-5-08) when the Chicago Tribune ran the story, with the L.A. times picking up on it, and now many major papers nationwide, including "Drudge" on the Internet, are finally running this story (that started last June or before). But none of the Salt Lake papers are running any of it yet. Why is that, when we're a "red state" and allegedly all voted for McCain?

The question has already been posed as to what to do if Obama is declared unable to take the presidential office because "the US Constitution doesn't tell us what to do." Well, yes it did. It said a "natural born citizen." When you break a rule, you go back to the beginning. You don't use the broken rule as an excuse to change the rules.

Yeah, that probably means another election. We say have lawsuits filed against McCain, again (they got dismissed earlier), to undo Congress' "resolution" that stated that his illegal immigrant status was ok with them, and then have all the rest of the candidates put back on the ballot who got left off even though they were only suspending their campaign, including Ron Paul.

Don't know if that means Pelosi would be the temporary prez after January 20 until a new election is handled or not. Don't know what options are out there that are legal for this. But the "Establishment" having 2 illegals running for president at all, is beyond a reasonable doubt that this was an "accident."
Bliss W. Tew
Posted Dec 8, 2008 7:32 PM
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A John Birch Society member in Ogden sent the letter for the Berge group to the five Utah Electoral College members to notify them of the potential of fraud surrounding Barack Obama's birth and citizenship. If any of you are interested, one member of the Electoral College for Utah is State Attorney General Mark Shurtleff. You could write to him if you have concerns. After all, the electoral college doesn't vote to determine who the president will be until December 15th.

Of course the electoral college members of Utah's Electoral College were not committed to vote for Barack Obama anyway so it won't make a difference on that account, but it may at least let the Attorney General of Utah realize that there is a question as to Barak Obama's eligibility for the office of the President.
Bliss W. Tew
Posted Dec 17, 2008 9:43 AM
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Now that it's December 17th and the Electoral College has voted, I haven't seen that those Electors have listened to the various messages about Barack Obama's possible lack of U.S. Citizenship. It appears that the Obama Presidency will go forward. So we ought to turn to the matters we have to deal with under Mr. Obama:

1. dealing with Obama Executive Orders as unconstitutional legislation by a President.
2. dealing with ongoing, unconstitutional, socialist bailouts of favored businesses.
3. Too much government spending on too many unconstitutional spending sprees. (i.e. foreign aid, education, etc.)
4. Too much inflation, all inflation is too much!
5. Too much taxation to pay for all the increased federal debts from too much spending.
6. Too many wars. Unconstitutional, undeclared, costly wars on foreign lands.
7. The need to End the Federal Reserve System and restore sound money to America.
8. Free Trade Agreements are sending our jobs abroad to cheap labor nations like Red China
9. Too much federal debt from too much spending.
10. Too little obediance to the Constitution by all branches of government.
11. Too many illegal aliens invading and occupying our nation.
12. Too many top leaders, including Obama, seeking to betray our nation into integrated economic and political unification with other nations in supranational governmental structures: The United Nations, The IMF, The WTO, NAFTA, a North American Union, a common market with the European Union, etc.
Bliss W. Tew
Posted Oct 17, 2009 11:36 AM
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The question still lingers: Is Barrack Obama an American citizen, or a Kenyan citizen, or an Indonesian citizen?

Here's a 2004 online article that claimed he is a Kenyan Citizen!!! What did the author of that article know back then, and how did he know it?

http://web.archive.or...
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