There's no need to end the War in Iraq--it ended in 2003. This is a post-war occupation.

I think that it gives the opposition a slight advantage when we call it a war, rather than what it really is.

Yes, Dave, I would agree with you there is a contining American military occupation of the land of Iraq, but while the President's spokesmen and establishment media still call it the "war in Iraq," and American soldiers continue to come home in coffins every week, and combat operations are still carried out including air strikes, and while we're still told that there are "enemy forces" to fight on the ground, and there are "insurgents" our soldiers must overcome with deadly force, and ground forces are conducting actual combat missions, I think the situation can still safely be defined as a "war," even if you want to call it a "war of occupation."

We have occupied the 38th parrallell in the Korean Pennisula now for over 50 years, and that is certainly a military occupation on our part, but by in large our troops no longer conduct combat missions. At least in Korea there is a "truce" in place, if not an armistace, so that the killing of war is stalled. But, in Iraq, there is no truce in place, the killing continues unabated. The missile attacks and mortar attacks on our bases continue as in war. My son suffered some 110 such attacks in 2006, and he can tell you that's war.

We occupy parts of Germany, Japan, Bosnia, Kuwait, etc. with our troops and those American military operations could all be called "military occupations," but when a situation remains "hot" with combat, then, the situation can be defined as "war." So I will try to call our operation in Iraq a "war of occupation" when I can, to more properly reflect the true nature of what's going on there presently.

One definintion of war is: "open armed conflict between countries or between factiosn within the same country." We have exacltly that situation ongoing in Iraq. Including between Shiites and Sunnis, in a type of simmering civil war. Either way, however, whether we call it a military occupation or a war, let's bring our troops home, since "AN AMERICAN SOLDIER IS A TERRIBLE THING TO WASTE." Let's end the war of occupation.

Why are we at war in Iraq? Because the United Nations says so:

http://www.foxnews.co...

The definitive book on war and foreign policy is Ron Paul's book, A FOREIGN POLICY OF FREEDOM, available from www.shopJBS.org that book shows the interventionism mind-set in Congress that drives us into undeclared war after undeclared war on behalf of the United Nations and globalism, world empire building that is.


If we go back to the Fox News Website above and read the report found there, we'll see that The United Nations Security Council, on December 18, 2007, "votes to extend US-led force in Iraq for one year." The war in Iraq is not only being fought for the United Nations, but is approved of by the United Nations, despite disclaimers to the contrary, else why should the UN Security Council have voted to extend the US military mission in Iraq?

Well, in a few short days, that year will be up as it will be December 2008. Will the UN Security Council again extend its unconstitutional authority to keep US troops in place in Iraq? Will the US government withdraw our troops? Will Orack Obama, from the White House, issue executive orders to bring our troops home? I doubt Obama will bring our troops back from Iraq in 2009. Maybe he'll shift them to Afghanistan, or Iran. Maybe he'll bring some home to make it appear he is keeping his word to end the Iraq war, but it would be big surprise to see him end our war in Iraq. It would even be a bigger surprise if Congress ended the war in 2009 short of total American bankruptcy.

For 19-years now, U.S. Troops have been stationed in the middle east as part of a conflict with Iraq. They first arrived in September 1990 as part of operation Desert Shield. In January1991, at the order of President George Herbert Walker Bush, that supposedly defensive operation became an aggressive military operation known as "Desert Storm, or "The Gulf War."

President Clinton kept America's military forces there in Kuwait and in the Persian Gulf enforcing George H. W. Bush's "no fly zones" and the United Nations embargo against Iraq. Clinton also ordered cruise missile launches on Iraq.

President George W. Bush then escalated our war on Iraq in March 2003 and ordered our military to invade Iraq and conquer the nation, which was done. The president of Iraq, Saddam Hussein was captured, tried, and hung. But, our troops, now under the command of President Barack Hussein Obama, are still in Iraq, seven months after the "I'll bring our troops home" candidate became president of the United States.

Nineteen years of American war on Iraq, without Iraq attacking America's shores. In 1990, we were actually allies with Iraq. America had given Iraq, and Saddam Hussein foreign aid all through his eight-year war with Iran during the Reagan/Bush administration!

As of Wednesday, July 15, 2009, the death toll for American military forces in Iraq stood at 4,315 as reported in U.S.A. Today, with 13 Defense Department civilians dead as well. (I don't think these figures count the hundreds of dead Americans back in "Desert Storm" in 1991).

All of this begain as a United Nations Peacekeeping effort. All of this was done to support United Nations Security Council Resolutions. All of this was done without a congressional declaration of war against Iraq as our Constitution requires. All of this is done for a "New World Order."

And let us add a comment about Afghanistan as well since President George W. Bush ordered American military forces to enter into an undeclared war on Afghanistan's soil to eject the Taliban from power. That is to say the Congress did not declare war on Afghanistan, but George W. Bush did.

Now that war in Afghanistan has morphed into a NATO war. President Obama is considering increasing our troop commitment in Afghanistan and expanding that war despite his pledges during his campaign to bring home our troops.

This article explains: http://www.thenewamer...

Military Interventionism continues unabated as our president's foriegn policy.